Can A Guy Own Too Many Ties?

Imelda Marcos Had Over 3,000 Pairs of Shoes?

Novelty Neckties - I Just Cannot Stop!

I have a thing for ties, not just ties - it is novelty ties like Marvel Comics Super Heroes Spiderman neckties, or Van Gogh Art neckties - Starry Night and really wild fashion neckties. When is it a compulsion and not just a desire to have a sufficient collection and is there difference? How many ties are too many?

Apparently I am not alone.  I searched Google after I published this one - you gotta check out the photo of this guy's wife - it's priceless - her husband has 771 ties, neatly rolled, in copy-paper box lids. luckily, they have large closets Her husband and I are "birds of a feather" He's lucky he has such a nice wife that puts up with his tie issues. I envy him, not for his ties - I have plenty of my own.

How many ties should a guy own?  How many ties do you own? - you are welcome to leave a comment below or take our survey on a Flickr discussion we started 

I absolutely love wearing ties and do not consider it a bad thing to have so many. I certainly do not harm anyone in anyway by collecting them. It is not like I have storage containers full of neckties like Imelda Marcus had filled with shoes. The wife of late Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos made the “list of the greediest people of all time” in Newsweek Magazine a couple of years ago. I will admit she was a bit over board, but women do have a thing for shoes, don’t they. I remember calculating how many shoes she had purchased and how many weeks an adult could live on the average - wearing a new pair of shoes every week, she came up short on weeks. So, she had a surplus – is that a bad thing. Some people collect guns – they are dangerous, or dolls – they are not dangerous or Playboy Magazines – they may or may not be dangerous. I collect ties; I also make a living selling them. So, this is not just a silly hobby, it is a profession. There is nothing wrong with trying to make an honest buck is there?

Sure, I own a lot of ties; my personal collection that is. Now for the Internet Store Nice Tie Store but that’s another story – over 100,000 to date in stock. But those are for sale and they do not count. My personal stash of novelty ties - is what I am talking about. It’s quite a selection of unique fashion ties and the fun stuff like, the Wolverine, Silver Surfer, Spy vs. Spy in silk by Ralph Marlin and so on. For fashion I own many Portofino and Martin Wong ties, and collector item neckwear; Electric - Rush Limbaugh neckties. I have never counted them however estimates range at 400 – 500 neckties that are absolutely tie guy gems. Factoring in the “being fashionably correctness” values I believe I am just about right on the inventory. There are 364 days in a year and an extra day every 4 years so if I wore the same tie within a year to a place I have been to and anyone realized it I would be at very least completely embarrassed. After all, I do have a reputation to maintain. I always wanted to be the best at everything, so collecting ties in such a serious way became natural for me. Sadly enough, often, I would feel remorse at times selling a tie – like it was too nice to let it go especially if it was the last one. I have many regrets that is for sure.

Too Sexie Ties - Irvine Spectrum

I always think about ties, how their made, how to tie ‘em, and most important thing; how to sell ‘em. One thing is for sure, I possibly may have really taken too many home. Some I have never worn and there are some that I have two of by mistake. My walls are covered with neckties and they are even double and triple hanging. Even the coat rack is covered with ties. When I wake up it is the first thing I see, hundreds and hundreds of cool neckties. And when I sleep, well I’ll be honest I don’t sleep with any, however, I do dream about them. I will admit, I have slept with a few still tied around my neck, but then again, I had my shoes on, the suit, and the rest of the trimmings too.

Too Sexie Ties Novelty Necktie Collection - Irvine Spectrum

Have I always been a nut, for ties?  I’ve always loved ties - mostly, however there was a brief time that I did not like ties very much. 

Explaining this is quite simple; I must have been hung in a prior life, and could not stand to have anything tight around my neck. I was young and immature then. When I became a sophisticated man who appreciated the finer things in life; like a great bottle of wine and the company of a beautiful woman, I completely fell in love with ties.  It was as if I had a special power – a boost of self esteem when I wore ties.  So I admit it, I had a hate for ties which is hard to imagine as now I’m so fascinated by neckties now that it is actually out of control at times.  You might say that I am obsessed with ties.  I am planning to make a will soon giving everything I own, the necktie collection, the classical music CD collection and the DVD collection too to my son however he may not have the ties unless he will wear them.  If he does not agree to this then the tie collection is out if the deal and a moderator will find a museum for them. 

I guess it has become a problem. My friends think I should talk to someone about it. “So what if I am a bit eccentric and collect ties, I really don’t think it is such a big deal – is it.”

The famous, not - the infamous necktie salesman, Jeffrey Hunter - Nice Tie Store, formally Too Sexie Ties, the Irvine Spectrum Center.

Imelda R. Marcos (born Imelda Remedios Visitacion Romualdez on July 2, 1929) is currently a politician in the Philippines and was wife of 10th Philippine President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos. Upon the ascension of her husband to political power, she held various positions to the government until 1986.  She was a controversial first lady who $5-million shopping sprees to New York and Rome, reportedly owned the world’s largest collections of gems fine art by Botticelli, and Michelangelo, purchased more than 3,000 pairs of shoes.”  The former first lady was also known for holding extravagant parties for foreign dignitaries during the reign of her husband.

Read more Imelda Marcos Wikipedia - the Internet's Encyclopedia

Read more: Newsweek's Greediest People of All Time

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Death of the Necktie

Hold onto the eulogy - ties are not going to die anytime soon. There is still a great demand for neckties and in the last two years the necktie has seen a resurgence in men's fashion - Jeffrey Hunter

On June 14th 2008 USA Today did a story about the necktie and whether or not ties were headed to oblivion. The acceptance of casual dress has caused the necktie industry to take a severe blow - at somewhere around 20% from the peak in sales of ties in the beginning of the 70's when 200 million to 250 million ties were sold each year. With the market shrinking and the recession taking a toll on consumer spending many manufacturers have shut the doors or at the very least cut back on operations. Unique and specialty ties have been discontinued from 2000 and over the last five years or so some necktie icons like Tabasco, Endangered Species, Looney Tunes, and much of the Ralph Marlin line of novelty ties have seen their end. However men still wear ties and there is a niche market now for special novelty neckties, especially on-line.

Here are segments of the USA Today piece if you missed it: 

The necktie, knot what it used to be, still hangs on

.......Predictions of the necktie's demise have been circulating for years. In the mid-1990s, designer Gianni Versace offered his vision of male fashion in a coffee-table book titled "Men Without Ties," a sure sign of where things were headed. A bronzed Adonis dashed across its cover dressed in nothing but a few ties, lashed loosely around his waist.


The burgeoning popularity of casual Fridays turned khakis and open collar-shirts into suitable wear for workplaces previously better suited to suits. The dot-com boom filled thousands of instant offices with laid-back twentysomethings who saw no point in lashing something tight around their necks.

But rumors of the tie's death are roughly equivalent to the longtime predictions that the computer would soon turn society paperless. There's a lot of truth to the prognostication, but somehow it hasn't quite turned out that way.

Clearly, the tie business is nothing like the old days. In the early 1970s, when sales peaked, manufacturers sold between 200 million and 250 million ties a year in the U.S. Today annual sales have dropped to about 50 million, according to Lee Terrill, president of the neckwear division of Phillips-Van Heusen Corp., the nation's largest tie maker.

A Gallup poll last year found just 6% of men wearing neckties to work each day, down from 10% in 2002. More than two-thirds of the men surveyed said they never wear a tie to work, up from 59% five years earlier.  But the necktie still has its defenders and devotees, men who invest the kind of affection in their ties that a golf shirt will probably never know.

"A lot of people call me the Tie Guy," says Bob Smith, the outgoing provost and vice chancellor of academic affairs at the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville, Ark.  Smith has a collection of more than 400 ties in his closets. They are vital accessories in a job requiring him to deliver many speeches and presentations — more than 700 in the past eight years. Every Smith speech is punctuated with a tie themed to the subject.  A tie with a giraffe on it for a speech about the qualities that make a good supervisor, one who is able to raise his head above the fracas to see the landscape clearly. Another featuring a painting by Charles Rennie Mackintosh of a rose inside a teardrop that he saves for delivering eulogies.

"When I walk into a room, they'll look at my necktie, they'll actually pick it up when I walk in, and say 'Oh, what are you going to talk about today? and I'll say, 'Oh, wait and see.' It actually creates a sense of mystery," Smith says.  Smith's collection, though, pales compared to the more than 1,000 ties owned by Richard Arutunian, a retired Southern California neckwear manufacturer.   Arutunian rejects this talk that the tie has come undone. A tie is singularly irreplaceable, he says, uniquely capable of sending a message about its wearer to women and to his fellow men.  "To me it tells more about the person than even the shoe does," says Arutunian, who long served as official tie historian for the neckwear industry association's predecessor. "Is he trying to impress me? Is he wearing a tie because he has to wear that tie? How is he tying that knot?"

Wearing cloth around the neck stretches back a long way. Some trace the modern tie to the early 1600s when Croatian fighters looped fabric around their necks before battle, captivating the public's imagination. 

Hard to believe, but for most of history men were the peacocks of the fashion world, and that included draping their necks in all sorts of status symbols, from waterfall cloths to cravats, says Paula Baxter, who curated an exhibit that closed last year at the New York Public Library on the rakish history of men's wear.  "Even the Puritans. They would wear lace collars," she says.

The era of the male dandy ended in the late 19th century, when the uniformity of the tailored suit took over. In the early 1920s, neckwear makers began cutting cloth on the bias — diagonally, at an angle to the weave — and the modern tie was born. It found a welcome home on the necks of the expanding ranks of white-collar workers.  By the 1960s, 600 companies made ties in the U.S., mostly smaller, regional manufacturers. They banded together in a professional association that lobbied on their behalf.

Those days are long past.

"The number you have dialed is not in service at this time," a recording greeted callers to the New York offices of the Dress Furnishings Association this week. "Please check the area code and number and dial your call again."  Don't bother.

Today there are only about two dozen companies making ties in the U.S., and the business is dominated by huge firms. Many of the ties American men wear are made overseas. It didn't seem to make any sense to keep running an association built for an industry so fundamentally different from what it used to be, says Terrill, the neckwear business executive and a member of the association's board.  "We didn't think anybody would notice," he says, of the decision to close.  Instead, the association's closure has been greeted as confirmation that the tie is done. 
The suggestion alarms Terrill, who says that sales have steadied and ties are poised to make a modest comeback. 

There are still a few islands of tie-wearers. Lawyers and folks in finance and insurance work in offices where suits and tie remain the badges of professionalism.  "When you wear a tie it still says ... you're dressed for the occasion," says Amy Klaris, a retail strategist at consulting firm Kurt Salmon Associates.  Today, with the economy softening, men need to market themselves and a big part of that is the way they dress. That will send the pendulum swinging, albeit subtly, back to the suit and tie, Terrill says.

In the past 10 or 15 years, as dress codes loosened, men who'd always worn ties "were making a statement. I'm not going to wear a tie because I don't have to wear a tie," Terrill says. "But now so many people don't wear a tie, that it's a statement to wear one."

read the entire story USA TODAY

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Neckties are truly a measure of dressing for style and possible for love too.  I found this interesting piece searching the New York Times for articles about neckties.   Apparently there is some truth to love, ties and knights, after all aren't all men knights at heart - Jeffrey Hunter

Article: NECKTIES EVOLVED FROM MEDIEVAL SCARVES

Who invented men's neckties, and why? - Jerry, Commerce City. 
Neckties date to medieval days when a knight errant would wear a token of affection from his lady fair - usually a scarf around his neck, says Leonard Brodsky, spokesman for the National Neckwear Association in Brooklyn, N.Y. ``From there, it just evolved,'' he said. Neckties in their current incarnation, or at least recognizable as such, have been around since the late 1800's, he said.

Check out my blog post from a week ago, Venus the Goddess of Love by Botticelli if you have any doubts about love and ties click here to view Venus the Goddess of Love necktie

A previous post you will want to read is right here Venus the Goddess of Love by Sandro Botticelli

A Brief History of: The Necktie

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TIME MAGAZINE AND CNN

Wide or skinny, plaid or plain, synthetic or silk, the tie is a Father's Day staple--nearly 4.5 million dads are getting one on June 15--and one of the few fashion accessories to have survived nearly 400 years of social change. Neck adornments have been worn since ancient times to signify title or wealth or even just to sop up sweat. But modern, mostly decorative neckwear dates from King Louis XIV of France, who first popularized the tie's predecessor, the cravat, after spotting the bow-tie-like embellishment on 17th century Croatian soldiers.

New York City Tenement Necktie Workshop 1889

Two centuries later, the Industrial Revolution helped spread the style to the masses, as millions of workers migrated from farmlands to factories and the business class was born. In 1924 an American tailor named Jesse Langsdorf created--and patented--the tie's modern look, with its bias cut and three-piece construction. By the 1950s, it was said that a man wasn't fully dressed until he had put on his tie. But as the high age of the Organization Man faded, the tie came to symbolize individuality as much as conformity. Ralph Lauren launched the ill-advised 4-in.-wide (10 cm) trend in the 1970s, and the following decade saw the accessory appropriated by everyone from Ivy Leaguers (striped ties!) to punks (skinny ties!) to Wall Street moguls (power ties!).

Tie sales hit a peak of $1.3 billion in 1995 but steadily declined as the dotcom boom threatened to obliterate neckwear entirely and business casual took hold in the workplace. Just last week the Men's Dress Furnishings Association, which represents American tiemakers, announced it will close its doors. Still, some analysts see an upside in the current economic downturn: laid-off workers looking to stand out in job interviews could spark a tie-wearing boom.

Read more:

Reproductive Behavior of the Ordinary Necktie (Strangulus Polyestrus)

The reproduction of neckties and twenty dollar bills

I found this on the Internet many years ago. Since then we have conducted similar experiments with twenty dollar bills with no success. We are still working at it. 

Regarding the reproduction of ties or more precisely the production of them, we could not effectively manage to yield any tie off spring despite our best efforts.  A friend joked that quite possibly the male neckties were using condoms.   

We also unsuccessfully experimented with cultivating neckties or as Dr. Foulard describes them Strangulus P. In make shift greenhouses, or in the backyard no Strangulus P. grew on trees - very similar to the age old myth - money doesn't grow on trees.  As well we tried to cultivate twenty dollar bills without any success despite the use of grafting and or the use of fertilization.  

I think you’ll like this - the sex life of ties.  If you love ties like I love ties - this is fairly funny.  Jeffrey Hunter


Here it is, "The Sex Life of Neckties - Strangulus Polyestrus"
Dr. Horace P. Foulard-Kravatz, Ph.D.

It has been observed for some time that Strangulus Polyestrus has a reproductive cycle closely related to their storage environment, but until now, this behavior has never been documented.

For the initial phase of this study, four groups of 20 Strangulus P. were used. The first was a control group, hung neatly on a tie rack in an open room. Over the course of six months, no reproductive behavior was observed.

A stork and a new born necktie

The second group consisted of 20 Strangulus P. hung on a tie rack in a closed closet. After six months in this closet, it was found that no new Strangula had been produced, although several had fallen to the floor during the process of trying to reproduce.

The third group consisted of 20 Strangulus P. flung carelessly into a dresser drawer, which was then closed and sealed for six months. When the drawer was finally opened, it was found that the adult Strangula had been promiscuous indeed, resulting in the formation of seven new Strangula . The coloring of these adolescent Strangula indicated that the Gaudy sub-species has a shorter or more successful reproductive cycle, prompting the research described in the latter part of this study.

The fourth and final group of 20 Strangulus P. was assembled at the request of a colleague who insisted that the best place. For-breeding Strangula was the back seat of a car. This method did prove to be the most productive attempt, although it initially got off to a slow start. At the beginning of the experiment, the dormant Strangula were simply laid neatly across the back seat of the car. No reproductive behavior was observed until they were eventually swept aside to make room for passengers, and ultimately kicked under the driver’s and passenger’s side seats, at which point they not only began to produce at an astonishing, if not outright whorish rate, but also began to display significant signs of territorial belligerence, often attacking the feet and hands of observing scientists. Again, the overwhelming majority of the offspring belonged to the Gaudy sub-species.

This preponderance of Strangulus Polyestrus Gaudy, and a need to waste the remainder of a significant federal grant to ensure continued funding, prompted additional research to contrast and compare the reproductive cycle of Gaudy to the other major sub-species of Strangulus P.: Spotted and Drab . For this phase, 20 adult Strangula of each sub-species were shoved hurriedly into drawers which were subsequently sealed for a period of two months.

After two months, the Drab specimens were still languorously indulging in foreplay, which seemed to consist mainly of estimating one’s net worth and making trite and insincere comments about other Strangula ‘s texture, color, or cooking ability. The Spotted specimens were crusting up nicely and had begun to exude a weird, but not altogether nauseating, odor. The Gaudy specimens, on the other hand, were not only procreating at a scandalous rate, but had established a crude transmission device and were broadcasting talk shows with themes along the lines of “Ketchup: Aphrodisiac or Communist Menace’, and “Women Who Love Piet Mondrians and the Men Who Wear Them”.

It was at this time that the study was dropped abruptly due to intervention from the Dean of the University, who guaranteed tenure only if the damn report would be published already.

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The Great Necktie Wars Have Started

Lose the necktie at Colton steakhouse

Decapitation of neckties is a ritual at this steak house.  Now, I am certain that the demise of civilization is up-stoppable.

The story starts off like this: It starts with the tie. Diners who are rash enough to visit Pinnacle Peak in neckwear get it removed. The hard and/or fun way is when a food server cuts it off with some impressively sharp scissors and makes you sing "Home on the Range" to your dining party. read more here

This is a comment I made on that blog that promotes the Colton Steakhouse:

Man this just kills me. Those poor ties, they never meant to hurt anyone. There is even a Picasso up on that wall - I have to sit back in my chair or I may just have a panic attack. Well its a free country isn't it,  but why take out the frustration of daily life on a fashion accessory that is actually a very wonderful form of expression.So, I have decided to start a forum called "I Love or Hate Neckties and this post will be among the first examples of the phenomenon of this society's conflict with neckties. As well, I will be sure to post this one on my blog http://nicetiestore.blogspot.com/ with a courtesy link back to your post.

After all I am a gentlemen but as they say all is fair in love and war. I must stand my ground and take some creative action here. I think the Great Necktie War has started.

Cordially yours

Jeffrey Hunter

http://www.nicetiestore.com/

You may want to read an earlier post I made in March - actually my second and one of the reason I started this bog -  http://nicetiestore.blogspot.com/2010/03/i-love-ties.html

More and more I see this overwhelming hatred towards neckties. When I had a necktie kiosk at the Irvine Spectrum Center iand Fashion Island in Newport Beach in Southern California men would go out of their way to make awfull comments and with no regard for decency attack my tie business with vigor. Even some of friends make jokes about my nektie affection.

So I am fighting back now.  The glove are off BRO.  The Great Necktie War has Started.  Stay tuned for the post that will have the forum link and further necktie "hater" alerts.

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I Love Ties

Recently I found a blog post entitled "Die Necktie Die" These guys really hate ties. So I commented as follows.

Wow - such hate and towards a fashion accessory. It is as if it was a straight jacket.  I love ties, and women love ties. I also love women. I will continue but I really should not have to as those last two sentences should easily sell the argument in favor of ties.

We are all entitled to have an opinion and hating is not healthy but I am guilty of being a hater too. I hate button flies in jeans instead of zippers, that’s because I cannot un-do those buttons fast enough and if I am in a pinch for time, pissing on myself is an embarrassment. I also hate shoe laces but that is another story, I prefer cowboy boots not because they have no laces, but that is a plus.

Now the rest of the argument for ties to live. Only God decides who lives and who dies and that could or should apply to fashion accessories - but for the record.  When I go out without a suit and tie I just sort of blend in with every other guy. If I am dressed in a suit and tie my appearance is polished and special, which commands attention and respect. Dressing up has always been a distinction of having self worth. I feel like a million even if I am broke and nothing else that I know of can do this job. An example comes to mind; remember Schindler in the beginning of the Steven Spielberg movie Schindler's List. With a mission to network into big business deals Liam Neeson carefully organizes himself down to the finest detail before going to the club. He makes the opportunities he needs because of his style. He is thought to be the most important gentlemen in the house - because he looks the part.

I really do not know why so many men hate ties. It is as if they are just in a rebellious frame of mind against looking successful and being handsomely packaged. Shakespeare said, “The apparel oft proclaims the man," He was not just commenting on a fashion statement but factually making a point.

So I do not care if some men hate ties. If I am the only guy "dressed to the nines" when I go out chasing babes then that means I will have some advantage. Do not kid yourself women really do like ties. And a man will get greater respect if he is dressed the part. Ties are actually fun to wear. They are a statement and the only way a man can artistically express himself, save tattoos and wearing a pair of pants hanging so low that you are cracking. Now that is another way to get attention and quite possibly a conversation starter with women. Showing off my undies or what is beneath them is not what I want to be remembered for, at least at the first impression.

I do not strive to be the serious guy either wearing a tie. I am not trying to be someone that I am not. I almost never wear conservative boring striped ties; mostly I wear loud bold pattern designs with very bright colors or novelty ties. My favorite tie is the Silver Surfer in silk b Ralph Marlin, no longer made. I used to surf and illustration of the Surfer gliding through the heavens with a bright cosmic universe as the background is just literally out of this World.

So the best to all of you guys that are afraid to tie a noose around your neck of whatever reason it is that you hate ties. I have a web site selling ties and a blog - I make a comfortable living and I can work my hours, listen to my music and wear a tie or not regardless of who says what the dress code is. I once wrote a funny essay called 41 things that you cannot do with a tie. I will post it to my blog today. Everyone one of the items listed is a fact so you cannot say that you were not warned.

And just in case you decide you better have at least one tie and you dare not own a boring conservative model, we have you covered. We have ties illustrating Spiderman, Mickey Mouse, Marilyn Monroe and lucky dice, hot rod flames and so on at fashion and novelty neckties at www.nicetiestore.com